Episode 66: What If Hansel and Gretel Had a Cage Fight?

Hello all and welcome to another episode of Slushpile! In this episode, look forward to not only critiquing a few poems along with the gang, but also some discussion on the original tale of Hansel and Gretel.

Setting a new precedence, rather than lots of jackassery before we got down to business, we quickly moved into the poems (below the bio!) by Susannah Sheffer. (Though we tussled a bit over who of us found these poems!)

The first poem titled, "After: An Introduction" was read by a sniffly Ali.                             

However, instead of a discussion on the poem itself, following the reading, a discussion on the history of the IPod's evolution ensued. Nevertheless, we just as quickly got back on track!

The crew decided that the poem was crafted as a re-telling of the story, "Hansel and Gretel" and prompted a fascinating conversation that will have you glued to your audio device (whether that be an IPod or IPhone).

This piece even had Jason and Tim agreeing with each other, which if you have been listening to the podcast for a while, you know is rare.

Re-tellings of an original story can be tricky as it could either go really well, or come off as overdone. A debate amongst the gang resulted from this. Obviously, the poem did a good job as the majority agreed that even though it was a recreation, it still possessed unique qualities. Even those who weren't big fans of the story, could say that they understood why someone else could.

Moreover, there were some lines in the poems that had the gang tripping, which begs the question: Is it a good poem if it does not?

Overall, it led us into a deep discussion of not only the poem itself, but the original Hansel and Gretel tale (and no, not the Disney version, but the original original by the Grimm brothers).

Who knows how or why we started talking about “Say Anything,” but we did, and Kathleen was incredulous that there was anyone left in America who hadn’t seen such an iconic film. 

The next poem “Hansel At His Stepmother’s Grave,” wowed the gang with its jaw-dropping rhythm, which had Kathleen saying "Holy Moly" in more ways than one. Everyone agreed it was executed beautifully.

Jason went the extra mile and did a bit of quick research helping us to dig even deeper into the poem. This was a poem that not only evoked the emotions of our crew, but also explored the emotions of and between the characters within the original fairy tale and Sheffer’s poem.

However, this poem left the crew at a tie! Or as Joseph described it “high drama.” Listen in to find out what the final verdict was!

The last poem, “Hansel Prepares For the Future” offered yet another unique twist on the tale. Trust me folks, this is one you do not want to miss.

Let us know how we’re doing, Slushies!  Read on!

If you just can’t get enough Hansel and Gretel, Jason recommends Anna Marie Hong’s “H & G” and Marion recommends “Girls Are Coming Out of the Woods” by Tashini Doshi.

 

 

Susannah Sheffer teaches writing (and other things) to young people at North Star: Self-Directed Learning for Teens in Sunderland, Massachusetts. She also works as a therapist at a local mental health agency, often with people who have experienced trauma. All of this in some way informs her perspective on the Hansel and Gretel story. Susannah’s poetry chapbook This Kind of Knowing was published by Cooper Dillon Books in 2013 and more recent poems have appeared or are forthcoming in The Threepenny Review, Copper Nickel, Tar River Poetry, the Massachusetts Review, and elsewhere. Her book Fighting for Their Lives: Inside the Experience of Capital Defense Attorneys was also published in 2013. 

 

 

 

AFTER: AN INTRODUCTION

 

Home again, and it’s as if the forest

never happened. No one wants to hear about

that great indifference, or the lure

of the witch house, or what we had to do

to save ourselves. I understand they won’t talk

about the hunger, the banishing, how easy it was

to be rid of us. So I don’t say anything

about the forest inside me. I don’t tell them

that trees grow behind my eyes at night,

or how I sometimes want to touch the bark

because I learned to cherish its rough

comfort. I’ll do the remembering

myself, letting it make of me what it will

as memory does, with its own moonlit trail,

bread crumbs, peril, revelation.

 

 

 

HANSEL AT HIS STEPMOTHER'S GRAVE

 

It’s not as if I can’t understand

why you did it. I couldn’t stand

it either, the house so groaning and

bent at the knees, the cupboards

with their gaping mouths,

our useless hands. And the demon

in my belly, the reproach it put

on my face – I would have ripped it out

if I could have, so I understand

why you said we had to go. Did you think

we didn’t hear you? Even then

we were good at lying still and

listening to the sounds the night makes.

Did you think that even then we wouldn’t

try to find our way back to you?

 

 

 

HANSEL PREPARES FOR THE FUTURE

 

Bread isn’t good enough;

he understands that now.

 

It’s too soft, too porous, too

yielding, and he knows now

 

that what is scattered at night

can be gone by morning.

 

Whenever he goes outside now

he keeps his eyes on the ground,

 

scanning for something

so cunning and indelible

 

that next time someone

sends him away

 

he will have what he needs

to resist the thieving world.